Comments on: Southern California and the MLS Myth: Why the MLS does not Provide an Accurate Picture of Housing Inventory. Shadow Inventory, Foreclosures, and Fantasy Housing Numbers. http://www.doctorhousingbubble.com/southern-california-and-the-mls-myth-why-the-mls-does-not-provide-an-accurate-picture-of-housing-inventory-shadow-inventory-foreclosures-and-fantasy-housing-numbers/ How I Learned to Love Southern California and Forget the Housing Bubble Sat, 31 Jul 2010 22:55:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: ted stevens http://www.doctorhousingbubble.com/southern-california-and-the-mls-myth-why-the-mls-does-not-provide-an-accurate-picture-of-housing-inventory-shadow-inventory-foreclosures-and-fantasy-housing-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-43593 ted stevens Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:24:27 +0000 http://www.doctorhousingbubble.com/?p=2801#comment-43593 What the hell. I thought this was a real estate site not a government site. Those who want to fix the government, go to work for the government or shut up. For those of us not interested in working on government issues, please post thoughts about real estate. It appears the shadow inventory could be a factor. Who has a way to find more data on the shadow? What the hell. I thought this was a real estate site not a government site. Those who want to fix the government, go to work for the government or shut up. For those of us not interested in working on government issues, please post thoughts about real estate.
It appears the shadow inventory could be a factor. Who has a way to find more data on the shadow?

]]> By: BZ http://www.doctorhousingbubble.com/southern-california-and-the-mls-myth-why-the-mls-does-not-provide-an-accurate-picture-of-housing-inventory-shadow-inventory-foreclosures-and-fantasy-housing-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-43506 BZ Tue, 22 Dec 2009 20:48:30 +0000 http://www.doctorhousingbubble.com/?p=2801#comment-43506 I applaud Partyboy for thinking out of the box. Anyone that has creative solutions, good or bad, deserves credit. Unfortunately, I dont think your system is workable. As Swiller points out, the people in most need of government assistance, the indigent, the physically and mentally handicapped, even the working poor and middle class are underrepresented in Sacramento and DC--that is our problem today. Most people are decent-hearted enough to take care of people that truly need help. It is the people that need help the least that are getting the most out of their elected officials at the state level and pissing away money. I also agree that the system is way too corrupt. Beyond the improper campaign contributions, I think that lobbyists have their way with pols because they are better informed than the pols themselves and can make strong arguments for their cause without counterbalancing from consumers/voters. Those two forces alone, money and ignorance, are what are killing the system. I dont like paying taxes. I cant name anyone who does. Im tired of my money going to big pharma, insurance companies, banks, oil companies, defense contractors (for non-necessary projects), dumb wars, stupid government pork projects, etc just like everyone. But I also want the kid I hand my money to at the store to be able to make proper change and answer questions about their product/service, I want to drive on freeways that are not pothole ridden, and I want my streets and parks safe just like everyone else. Even if I didnt have kids, didnt drive, and never ventured out my front door, I still would want those things.I take the good along with the bad. That's the way it has always been in America and that is the way it always will be. It's a compromise. If I starve government, then I wouldnt get those things I want, yet I still think pols would find a way to send money to causes that I didnt like, and to do it on the government's credit card. Our best path right now is education. Uneducated voters elect bad, uninformed, and ethically challenged pols. The faster we get our education system right, the faster we get a better informed electorate and the faster we get better representatives in local, state, and federal government that know what they are doing. I applaud Partyboy for thinking out of the box. Anyone that has creative solutions, good or bad, deserves credit. Unfortunately, I dont think your system is workable. As Swiller points out, the people in most need of government assistance, the indigent, the physically and mentally handicapped, even the working poor and middle class are underrepresented in Sacramento and DC–that is our problem today. Most people are decent-hearted enough to take care of people that truly need help. It is the people that need help the least that are getting the most out of their elected officials at the state level and pissing away money. I also agree that the system is way too corrupt. Beyond the improper campaign contributions, I think that lobbyists have their way with pols because they are better informed than the pols themselves and can make strong arguments for their cause without counterbalancing from consumers/voters. Those two forces alone, money and ignorance, are what are killing the system.

I dont like paying taxes. I cant name anyone who does. Im tired of my money going to big pharma, insurance companies, banks, oil companies, defense contractors (for non-necessary projects), dumb wars, stupid government pork projects, etc just like everyone. But I also want the kid I hand my money to at the store to be able to make proper change and answer questions about their product/service, I want to drive on freeways that are not pothole ridden, and I want my streets and parks safe just like everyone else. Even if I didnt have kids, didnt drive, and never ventured out my front door, I still would want those things.I take the good along with the bad. That’s the way it has always been in America and that is the way it always will be. It’s a compromise. If I starve government, then I wouldnt get those things I want, yet I still think pols would find a way to send money to causes that I didnt like, and to do it on the government’s credit card.

Our best path right now is education. Uneducated voters elect bad, uninformed, and ethically challenged pols. The faster we get our education system right, the faster we get a better informed electorate and the faster we get better representatives in local, state, and federal government that know what they are doing.

]]> By: js http://www.doctorhousingbubble.com/southern-california-and-the-mls-myth-why-the-mls-does-not-provide-an-accurate-picture-of-housing-inventory-shadow-inventory-foreclosures-and-fantasy-housing-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-43503 js Tue, 22 Dec 2009 18:26:49 +0000 http://www.doctorhousingbubble.com/?p=2801#comment-43503 "We don’t need sympathy from the Red states. We just need your most talented people to keep moving to the Blue states. Keep the Red states poor and racist." I think we're butchering most of our chances to have talented people coming here. What have we got anyway? Sunshine? Heck Florida has that and gators! We used to at least have a top tier public higher education system (the k-12 education is and has been absolutely horrendous for around 4 decades, but we used to have great higher education). And that attracted AND produced top talent in CA. Well higher education, the UC and Cal State systems are both being cut to the bone (and I don't mean just teachers salaries, I mean admissions!). But you think sunbeams alone will attract talent, despite lack of affordable housing, aweful k-12 schooling, gutted increasingly unaffordable higher education, high and extremely unfair taxations etc. etc. etc. “We don’t need sympathy from the Red states. We just need your most talented people to keep moving to the Blue states. Keep the Red states poor and racist.”

I think we’re butchering most of our chances to have talented people coming here. What have we got anyway? Sunshine? Heck Florida has that and gators!

We used to at least have a top tier public higher education system (the k-12 education is and has been absolutely horrendous for around 4 decades, but we used to have great higher education). And that attracted AND produced top talent in CA.

Well higher education, the UC and Cal State systems are both being cut to the bone (and I don’t mean just teachers salaries, I mean admissions!).

But you think sunbeams alone will attract talent, despite lack of affordable housing, aweful k-12 schooling, gutted increasingly unaffordable higher education, high and extremely unfair taxations etc. etc. etc.

]]> By: Swiller http://www.doctorhousingbubble.com/southern-california-and-the-mls-myth-why-the-mls-does-not-provide-an-accurate-picture-of-housing-inventory-shadow-inventory-foreclosures-and-fantasy-housing-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-43500 Swiller Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:38:18 +0000 http://www.doctorhousingbubble.com/?p=2801#comment-43500 "It seems fair to me that those who contribute the most, have the most say as to how their income taxes are used." What do you think is happening with the system now? Do you think YOU are a contributor? I'm thinking the scum on Wall St. thinks you are NOT. THEY are the contributors, and more oft than not, they contribute to the pockets of the corrupt republicans AND democrats. Under your idea the indigent who cannot provide for the system get ZERO say. Poor, retarded, handicapped.....yea, just lock them up in concentration camps, they don't produce anyhow. This is a very dangerous line of thinking and one that was used in Europe in the 1930-40's. “It seems fair to me that those who contribute the most, have the most say as to how their income taxes are used.”

What do you think is happening with the system now? Do you think YOU are a contributor? I’m thinking the scum on Wall St. thinks you are NOT. THEY are the contributors, and more oft than not, they contribute to the pockets of the corrupt republicans AND democrats.

Under your idea the indigent who cannot provide for the system get ZERO say. Poor, retarded, handicapped…..yea, just lock them up in concentration camps, they don’t produce anyhow. This is a very dangerous line of thinking and one that was used in Europe in the 1930-40’s.

]]> By: Swiller http://www.doctorhousingbubble.com/southern-california-and-the-mls-myth-why-the-mls-does-not-provide-an-accurate-picture-of-housing-inventory-shadow-inventory-foreclosures-and-fantasy-housing-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-43499 Swiller Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:34:20 +0000 http://www.doctorhousingbubble.com/?p=2801#comment-43499 I like what BZ is writing and I agree with most of it. What I find the most distasteful is people attacking people here. It sure seems people are waiting for *ANYONE* to place the blame on in their community instead of focusing on the real problem which is a corrupt political system, and corrupt crony capitalism. The politicians should be hounded out, tarred and feathered, but people here on this site would rather bash each other and blame each other while the politicians laugh in glee with the banksters who bought them off. There will be blood in the future, mark my words. I like what BZ is writing and I agree with most of it.
What I find the most distasteful is people attacking people here. It sure seems people are waiting for *ANYONE* to place the blame on in their community instead of focusing on the real problem which is a corrupt political system, and corrupt crony capitalism. The politicians should be hounded out, tarred and feathered, but people here on this site would rather bash each other and blame each other while the politicians laugh in glee with the banksters who bought them off.
There will be blood in the future, mark my words.

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