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	<title>Comments on: Real Homes of Genius:  Today we Salute La Mirada.  Housing has Entered Stage 2 of the Bear Market.  Middle Class Areas  $100,000 off in one year.</title>
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	<description>How I Learned to Love Southern California and Forget the Housing Bubble</description>
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		<title>By: Atlanta New Homes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Atlanta New Homes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 19:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>California&#039;s housing market truly is slacking these days. I recently read on a blog, a real estate company giving advertising buy one home, get one free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>California&#8217;s housing market truly is slacking these days. I recently read on a blog, a real estate company giving advertising buy one home, get one free.</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 19:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crazed and Bob,

I wouldn&#039;t get to worked up about the 5 year freeze.  For the few that apply to the criteria, many will probably decide to walk away anyways.  For those who don&#039;t walk away, many won&#039;t be able to keep their finances together anyway.  And for those who can keep their finances together, they likely won&#039;t be able to refi after the 5 years and will end up in a short sale situation anyway.

Lastly, if you&#039;re waiting for the chance to buy after the market returns to reasonable values, don&#039;t worry about the freeze doing anything.  The market will correct even if a small percentage of these homes don&#039;t go up for sale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crazed and Bob,</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t get to worked up about the 5 year freeze.  For the few that apply to the criteria, many will probably decide to walk away anyways.  For those who don&#8217;t walk away, many won&#8217;t be able to keep their finances together anyway.  And for those who can keep their finances together, they likely won&#8217;t be able to refi after the 5 years and will end up in a short sale situation anyway.</p>
<p>Lastly, if you&#8217;re waiting for the chance to buy after the market returns to reasonable values, don&#8217;t worry about the freeze doing anything.  The market will correct even if a small percentage of these homes don&#8217;t go up for sale.</p>
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		<title>By: BT</title>
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		<dc:creator>BT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 16:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent blog, Doctor HB.  A quick question: where do you find the info about house repricing?  I don&#039;t see it on the Redfin site, which is otherwise very informative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent blog, Doctor HB.  A quick question: where do you find the info about house repricing?  I don&#8217;t see it on the Redfin site, which is otherwise very informative.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 02:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 5-year freeze is a typically horrible government intervention into a semi-free market, and will undoubtably have the typical horrible consequences.  Anyone else remember Carter&#039;s attempts at price freezes during the oil embargo?

What the Mozilos of the world need most is more credit crack capitalization so they have more cheap $$ to peddle on the streets.  However, investors the world over have seen the hideous risks of derivatives made of derivatives for what they are.  They aren&#039;t going to provide the mortgage originators the crack they need.  And having government undermine contract law (which may well eventually be found unconstitutional) with this 5-year freeze places much more than just mortgage lending investments at risk in the US.  The falling dollar is brutal enough already in the international arena--add to that a flight from US investments due to an even bigger crisis of confidence induced by the complete lack of respect for contracts demonstrated by this poorly advised government meddling, and the picture gets much darker and potentially very quickly.

Fannie and Freddie still have to get their capital from somewhere, cap increases notwithstanding.  Freddie just last week decided to issue $6Bn in new preferred stock while cutting its dividend in half (that&#039;s some serious dilution of the current stock capitalization, folks) at the same time they are keeping $4.3Bn in already-realized hedge-fund losses off the books using the same sort of accounting Tomfoolery that Enron was using just before it collapsed. (see [url]http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&amp;sid=ahoxGPj68WN0[/url] )  If Freddie were to bring those losses onto their books, they&#039;d now be well below their federally-required core cap floor.  So [i]who[/i] is going to be swimming in to buy this new dilution of Freddie&#039;s already arguably worthless stock?

Even without the full wave of subprime foreclosures, the capitalization base needed to support this bubble still isn&#039;t there.  And let&#039;s not fool ourselves...a subprime borrower with a sub-660 FICO score is just that due to a history of prior financial misbehavior.  How many of those &quot;saves&quot; do we expect to last even a year given the basis of those low FICOs??  Feed these people more rope, and they&#039;ll just make a better noose for themselves.

I&#039;d think Hillary would want to see this thing over with before she moves back in to 1600 Penn Ave.  This will almost certainly ensure that whoever wins will get to wallow in this mess for those defining first years in office.

Bob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 5-year freeze is a typically horrible government intervention into a semi-free market, and will undoubtably have the typical horrible consequences.  Anyone else remember Carter&#8217;s attempts at price freezes during the oil embargo?</p>
<p>What the Mozilos of the world need most is more credit crack capitalization so they have more cheap $$ to peddle on the streets.  However, investors the world over have seen the hideous risks of derivatives made of derivatives for what they are.  They aren&#8217;t going to provide the mortgage originators the crack they need.  And having government undermine contract law (which may well eventually be found unconstitutional) with this 5-year freeze places much more than just mortgage lending investments at risk in the US.  The falling dollar is brutal enough already in the international arena&#8211;add to that a flight from US investments due to an even bigger crisis of confidence induced by the complete lack of respect for contracts demonstrated by this poorly advised government meddling, and the picture gets much darker and potentially very quickly.</p>
<p>Fannie and Freddie still have to get their capital from somewhere, cap increases notwithstanding.  Freddie just last week decided to issue $6Bn in new preferred stock while cutting its dividend in half (that&#8217;s some serious dilution of the current stock capitalization, folks) at the same time they are keeping $4.3Bn in already-realized hedge-fund losses off the books using the same sort of accounting Tomfoolery that Enron was using just before it collapsed. (see [url]http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&amp;sid=ahoxGPj68WN0[/url] )  If Freddie were to bring those losses onto their books, they&#8217;d now be well below their federally-required core cap floor.  So [i]who[/i] is going to be swimming in to buy this new dilution of Freddie&#8217;s already arguably worthless stock?</p>
<p>Even without the full wave of subprime foreclosures, the capitalization base needed to support this bubble still isn&#8217;t there.  And let&#8217;s not fool ourselves&#8230;a subprime borrower with a sub-660 FICO score is just that due to a history of prior financial misbehavior.  How many of those &#8220;saves&#8221; do we expect to last even a year given the basis of those low FICOs??  Feed these people more rope, and they&#8217;ll just make a better noose for themselves.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d think Hillary would want to see this thing over with before she moves back in to 1600 Penn Ave.  This will almost certainly ensure that whoever wins will get to wallow in this mess for those defining first years in office.</p>
<p>Bob</p>
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		<title>By: Terri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 00:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Santa Clarita, which is about 50 miles north of Los Angeles.  Houses that are the same model as our&#039;s in this neighborhood are listed for $525,000 to $549,000.  The house across the street is on the market as a short sale, being sold &quot;as is&quot;. I understand is has water damage that was never fixed.  There is no sign in the yard so I don&#039;t think any of the neighbors know it&#039;s for sale unless they check the MLS.   When they find out the asking price is $360,000 they are bound to go bolistic.  Who knows what it will actually sell for.  Thank God we are renting right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Santa Clarita, which is about 50 miles north of Los Angeles.  Houses that are the same model as our&#8217;s in this neighborhood are listed for $525,000 to $549,000.  The house across the street is on the market as a short sale, being sold &#8220;as is&#8221;. I understand is has water damage that was never fixed.  There is no sign in the yard so I don&#8217;t think any of the neighbors know it&#8217;s for sale unless they check the MLS.   When they find out the asking price is $360,000 they are bound to go bolistic.  Who knows what it will actually sell for.  Thank God we are renting right now.</p>
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