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		<title>By: rosethorn</title>
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		<dc:creator>rosethorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 05:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Census keeps track of the total number of housing units existing in the US each year.  A chart for the period 2000 - 2009 can be found &lt;a href=&quot;http://wasatchecon.wordpress.com/2010/06/28/total-us-housing-units-2000-to-2009/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  The decline in the slope of the increase is obvious starting in 2006.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Census keeps track of the total number of housing units existing in the US each year.  A chart for the period 2000 &#8211; 2009 can be found <a href="http://wasatchecon.wordpress.com/2010/06/28/total-us-housing-units-2000-to-2009/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.  The decline in the slope of the increase is obvious starting in 2006.</p>
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		<title>By: Kid Charlemagne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kid Charlemagne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 May 2010 00:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Caboy
Everyone thinks Japan was so brilliant.  What they did is what the Chinese are doing.  Bankrolling large businesses so their products are cheaper on the foreign markets, then have exploding exports.  Companies don&#039;t have to worry about making a profit, just cornering markets.  When the banks that finance them go broke, the government bails them out.
Japan is reaping what they sowed, just as China is now.  China&#039;s products suck, but we have largely gone with the lowest price and forsaken our industries.  Japan&#039;s quality is much better but now they are not cheaper.  Korea, Taiwan, etc.
The point is and why it is germaine to the topic as that, if you haven&#039;t been convinced by the doc, then you won&#039;t until it hits you in the face, this is the grand super-bubble, and it wants to unwind.  When it does, the entire world&#039;s fake economy will be so devestated we will have to start from scratch, just like after WW II.  It will not be fair and there will be huge winners, but mostly losers.  Buy now, and you will be a loser.  This is going to be ugly.  Just stay liquid for now.  Resist the next slide down, because there is a long way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Caboy<br />
Everyone thinks Japan was so brilliant.  What they did is what the Chinese are doing.  Bankrolling large businesses so their products are cheaper on the foreign markets, then have exploding exports.  Companies don&#8217;t have to worry about making a profit, just cornering markets.  When the banks that finance them go broke, the government bails them out.<br />
Japan is reaping what they sowed, just as China is now.  China&#8217;s products suck, but we have largely gone with the lowest price and forsaken our industries.  Japan&#8217;s quality is much better but now they are not cheaper.  Korea, Taiwan, etc.<br />
The point is and why it is germaine to the topic as that, if you haven&#8217;t been convinced by the doc, then you won&#8217;t until it hits you in the face, this is the grand super-bubble, and it wants to unwind.  When it does, the entire world&#8217;s fake economy will be so devestated we will have to start from scratch, just like after WW II.  It will not be fair and there will be huge winners, but mostly losers.  Buy now, and you will be a loser.  This is going to be ugly.  Just stay liquid for now.  Resist the next slide down, because there is a long way to go.</p>
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		<title>By: theyenguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>theyenguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 23:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A black swan event is going to be the catalyst to move the squatting strategic defaulters out of the houses -- the age of home lending is about over -- the age of home leasing is about to start.

TylerDurden in ZeroHedge article Roubini: The US Economy Is Unsustainable  writes that Nassim Taleb said that his primary concern about an upcoming &quot;Black Swan&quot; is a failed Treasury Auction. This is precisely what Zero Hedge has been concerned about for the past year, although we feel that this event will likely be at least marginally telegraphed, either in the form of Direct Bidders taking down close to 50% of each auction (with the Primary Dealers monetizing the balance), and an accelerated flattening of the yield curve. Last night, Roubini, who has apparently thrown away the mantle of moderation and is back to his gloomier ways, said that he worries &quot;that with a trillion deficit this year and next year, 2012, and for as far as the eye can see, eventually, not this year, but the next year, the markets are going to wake up and say, this is unsustainable.&quot; In other words whether via the Treasury market, or some other way, at some point the balance will shift from one where the market still believes that reserve currency is enough of a backstop to prevent the collapse of the US, to a regime where incremental bailouts will be seen as negative. That moment will be true black swan, and the beginning of the end of the great US experiment.

A failed Treasury auction would be disaster as the Treasury is running on empty ... well it is running on fumes  as Vincent Del Giudice of Bloomberg reported on May 13:  “The U.S. posted its largest April budget deficit on record as receipts declined in a month that typically sees an increase in individual income tax payments.  The excess of spending over revenue rose to $82.7 billion last month compared with a $20.9 billion gap in April 2009. April marked a record 19th straight monthly shortfall. Deterioration in the government’s balance sheet in coming years raises the risk of higher interest rates even as an improving economy helps lift tax receipts.  ‘With the recovery in place, we should be seeing higher revenue and lower outlays, not the other way around,’ said Win Thin, senior currency strategist at Brown Brothers Harriman.  The government’s April budget deficit compares with a median forecast of $57.9 billion. The last time the U.S. had back-to-back April deficits was 1963-1964. For the fiscal year that began in October, the budget deficit totaled $799.7 billion compared with $802.3 billion during the same period last year.”

My thoughts are that the black swan moment will see a rapid exit from the stock and debt market places; there will be very few buyers in the market place and prices will will fall like a rock. There will be a liquidity evaporation, meaning that one will not be able to access one&#039;s funds in money market accounts and brokerage accounts. 

The black swan moment will mean a soon-end to funding of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae; and as a result home lending will come to an end. As people default on mortgages, the financial institutions will lease properties, and not sell them as interest rates will quickly rise and be much too high. The banks will now longer allow Strategic Defaulters to squat in the houses. The number of realtors will be greatly reduced; the number of property leasers and mangers will grow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A black swan event is going to be the catalyst to move the squatting strategic defaulters out of the houses &#8212; the age of home lending is about over &#8212; the age of home leasing is about to start.</p>
<p>TylerDurden in ZeroHedge article Roubini: The US Economy Is Unsustainable  writes that Nassim Taleb said that his primary concern about an upcoming &#8220;Black Swan&#8221; is a failed Treasury Auction. This is precisely what Zero Hedge has been concerned about for the past year, although we feel that this event will likely be at least marginally telegraphed, either in the form of Direct Bidders taking down close to 50% of each auction (with the Primary Dealers monetizing the balance), and an accelerated flattening of the yield curve. Last night, Roubini, who has apparently thrown away the mantle of moderation and is back to his gloomier ways, said that he worries &#8220;that with a trillion deficit this year and next year, 2012, and for as far as the eye can see, eventually, not this year, but the next year, the markets are going to wake up and say, this is unsustainable.&#8221; In other words whether via the Treasury market, or some other way, at some point the balance will shift from one where the market still believes that reserve currency is enough of a backstop to prevent the collapse of the US, to a regime where incremental bailouts will be seen as negative. That moment will be true black swan, and the beginning of the end of the great US experiment.</p>
<p>A failed Treasury auction would be disaster as the Treasury is running on empty &#8230; well it is running on fumes  as Vincent Del Giudice of Bloomberg reported on May 13:  “The U.S. posted its largest April budget deficit on record as receipts declined in a month that typically sees an increase in individual income tax payments.  The excess of spending over revenue rose to $82.7 billion last month compared with a $20.9 billion gap in April 2009. April marked a record 19th straight monthly shortfall. Deterioration in the government’s balance sheet in coming years raises the risk of higher interest rates even as an improving economy helps lift tax receipts.  ‘With the recovery in place, we should be seeing higher revenue and lower outlays, not the other way around,’ said Win Thin, senior currency strategist at Brown Brothers Harriman.  The government’s April budget deficit compares with a median forecast of $57.9 billion. The last time the U.S. had back-to-back April deficits was 1963-1964. For the fiscal year that began in October, the budget deficit totaled $799.7 billion compared with $802.3 billion during the same period last year.”</p>
<p>My thoughts are that the black swan moment will see a rapid exit from the stock and debt market places; there will be very few buyers in the market place and prices will will fall like a rock. There will be a liquidity evaporation, meaning that one will not be able to access one&#8217;s funds in money market accounts and brokerage accounts. </p>
<p>The black swan moment will mean a soon-end to funding of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae; and as a result home lending will come to an end. As people default on mortgages, the financial institutions will lease properties, and not sell them as interest rates will quickly rise and be much too high. The banks will now longer allow Strategic Defaulters to squat in the houses. The number of realtors will be greatly reduced; the number of property leasers and mangers will grow.</p>
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		<title>By: theyenguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>theyenguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 20:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The figure of 14% delinquent is a stunning number; it is indicative of an underlying problem of unemployment; Alt-A, Option-Arms and  Interest only loans coming due; and also loan owners being underwater and not wanting to continue to pay.

I am of the opinion that subprime mortgage lenders, foreclosed on low FICO scoring, that is working class and low income neighborhoods, which includes Englewood, Illinois. 

Whereas, on the other hand, bankers have held off foreclosing on Alt-A and Option-Arms higher FICO scoring middle class neighborhoods, as FASB 157 has preserved the lending portfolio at mark-to-manager’s estimate, rather than to mark-to-market. Documentation for such holding off of foreclosing comes from your article which relates that 24% have made no payment in the last year are still not in foreclosure.
 
You provide the Nationalized Housing Market Chart which shows that the percentage of GSE financed homes fell from 2003 to 2006 as the banks issued Alt-A and Option-Arms first, second and third mortgages; and then bundled and secuiritized these into CDOs; which some sold short and others wrote CLOs on. These are the ones that the banks have on their books that are just sitting there. These contrast with the REOs, that is the suprime loans which have been written off.

You said it this way in your article:  ”Banks are moving on current REOs (the small batch that they have) and pumping this up as good news but the 90 days plus foreclosure number is still trending up.  How is this magic done?  We’ve talked about it above.  You simply don’t move on delinquent homeowners.  You ignore actual losses.  You mark your assets to fantasy valuations.”

If one  does real estate, demographic  and neighborhood research on Englewood IL which is zip code 60621; using the tools below; one will find that it is a low FICO scoring, that is working class and low income neighborhood where property values were decimated by foreclosures. 

Blockshopper Englewood IL Neighborhood

Redfin Englewood IL Neighborhood

City-Data Englewood IL, 60621

AOL Neighborhoods Englewood IL

Mike Mish Shedlock recently wrote an article recently relating that Illinois is bankrupt.
and relates Illinois just sits, bankrupting companies the state owes money to but has not paid. I believe that social chaos could easily erupt in Illinois very soon as the state fails to pay for social services; and property values are really going to fall across the state..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The figure of 14% delinquent is a stunning number; it is indicative of an underlying problem of unemployment; Alt-A, Option-Arms and  Interest only loans coming due; and also loan owners being underwater and not wanting to continue to pay.</p>
<p>I am of the opinion that subprime mortgage lenders, foreclosed on low FICO scoring, that is working class and low income neighborhoods, which includes Englewood, Illinois. </p>
<p>Whereas, on the other hand, bankers have held off foreclosing on Alt-A and Option-Arms higher FICO scoring middle class neighborhoods, as FASB 157 has preserved the lending portfolio at mark-to-manager’s estimate, rather than to mark-to-market. Documentation for such holding off of foreclosing comes from your article which relates that 24% have made no payment in the last year are still not in foreclosure.</p>
<p>You provide the Nationalized Housing Market Chart which shows that the percentage of GSE financed homes fell from 2003 to 2006 as the banks issued Alt-A and Option-Arms first, second and third mortgages; and then bundled and secuiritized these into CDOs; which some sold short and others wrote CLOs on. These are the ones that the banks have on their books that are just sitting there. These contrast with the REOs, that is the suprime loans which have been written off.</p>
<p>You said it this way in your article:  ”Banks are moving on current REOs (the small batch that they have) and pumping this up as good news but the 90 days plus foreclosure number is still trending up.  How is this magic done?  We’ve talked about it above.  You simply don’t move on delinquent homeowners.  You ignore actual losses.  You mark your assets to fantasy valuations.”</p>
<p>If one  does real estate, demographic  and neighborhood research on Englewood IL which is zip code 60621; using the tools below; one will find that it is a low FICO scoring, that is working class and low income neighborhood where property values were decimated by foreclosures. </p>
<p>Blockshopper Englewood IL Neighborhood</p>
<p>Redfin Englewood IL Neighborhood</p>
<p>City-Data Englewood IL, 60621</p>
<p>AOL Neighborhoods Englewood IL</p>
<p>Mike Mish Shedlock recently wrote an article recently relating that Illinois is bankrupt.<br />
and relates Illinois just sits, bankrupting companies the state owes money to but has not paid. I believe that social chaos could easily erupt in Illinois very soon as the state fails to pay for social services; and property values are really going to fall across the state..</p>
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		<title>By: caboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>caboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 05:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the western world is in for a long period of stagnation. Increasingly Japan looks like what we are headed for. They have tried everything to stimulate demand and they seem to be in mild deflation on and off for almost 20+ years. We have 300 million people and I just read today 40 million are on food stamps! 40 million people on food stamps! Where is the demand going to come from? China and India are where we were 20-30 years ago and still have a few decades of rapid growth left in them. Though China may be subject to massive political trubulance. But we are overbuilt and spent like drunken sailors for quite a while. We also have no new industry, no new dotcom , no engine for job growth in the near term. What is the next dotcom? The job market is improving, but there are millions more who have given up and have their lives turned upside down. We need something to power our growth and I don&#039;t see anything near term?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the western world is in for a long period of stagnation. Increasingly Japan looks like what we are headed for. They have tried everything to stimulate demand and they seem to be in mild deflation on and off for almost 20+ years. We have 300 million people and I just read today 40 million are on food stamps! 40 million people on food stamps! Where is the demand going to come from? China and India are where we were 20-30 years ago and still have a few decades of rapid growth left in them. Though China may be subject to massive political trubulance. But we are overbuilt and spent like drunken sailors for quite a while. We also have no new industry, no new dotcom , no engine for job growth in the near term. What is the next dotcom? The job market is improving, but there are millions more who have given up and have their lives turned upside down. We need something to power our growth and I don&#8217;t see anything near term?</p>
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