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	<title>Comments on: 1.8 Million California Mortgages Underwater.  In 2008 100,000 Renters were added.  2010 California Housing Market Trends.  How Banks Hoodwinked the Public into Believing the Bailouts were to help the Housing Market.</title>
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		<title>By: Homeownersoon2beRenter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Homeownersoon2beRenter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love these articles.  Makes me feel better about my decision to attempt a short sale and if that doesn&#039;t work foreclosure is my only option.  I will be loosing my $100,000 down payment but getting this monkey off my back is way more important.  I doing a strategic walk away unfortunately.

Information on this site just has confirmed I&#039;m making the best decision now my house in Inglewood is worth $200,000 less than what I paid for it and continuing to slide.  I appreciate the information I just wish more people would listen, but you can&#039;t save everyone from themselves. I&#039;m just happy I seen the light and am no longer depressed about being in a mountain of debt with no light at the end of the tunnnel.   I feel like such a fool that I even bought into this whole mess.  Now I realize I&#039;m not alone, but among my friends I am the only person making an exit from this bad investment.  My friends think the market is going to back to normal in 5 years and I&#039;m the crazy person.  But I will settle for being alone in my happiness of not throwing money down the toilet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love these articles.  Makes me feel better about my decision to attempt a short sale and if that doesn&#8217;t work foreclosure is my only option.  I will be loosing my $100,000 down payment but getting this monkey off my back is way more important.  I doing a strategic walk away unfortunately.</p>
<p>Information on this site just has confirmed I&#8217;m making the best decision now my house in Inglewood is worth $200,000 less than what I paid for it and continuing to slide.  I appreciate the information I just wish more people would listen, but you can&#8217;t save everyone from themselves. I&#8217;m just happy I seen the light and am no longer depressed about being in a mountain of debt with no light at the end of the tunnnel.   I feel like such a fool that I even bought into this whole mess.  Now I realize I&#8217;m not alone, but among my friends I am the only person making an exit from this bad investment.  My friends think the market is going to back to normal in 5 years and I&#8217;m the crazy person.  But I will settle for being alone in my happiness of not throwing money down the toilet.</p>
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		<title>By: spectorius</title>
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		<dc:creator>spectorius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 03:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1930&#039;s: &quot;Didn’t have inflation then from the money the US Government put into the economy and won’t have it now.&quot;

Haha; another conclusion on the part of an edu-maton.  So many factors were so completely different then vs. now that such a conclusion is invalid.  FWIW, in terms of money itself, the US had a swiftly-administered type of &quot;inflation&quot; with respect to the then-foundational underpinning of US currency when FDR outlawed most forms of private gold ownership in 1933, called a bank holiday, and then revalued gold from $20.00/oz to $35.00/oz with a stroke of the pen.  

Those who rely upon textbooks, professors, and the so-called &quot;education&quot; obtained thereby cannot see the forest for the trees.  They&#039;ll be stuck in the inflation vs. deflation debate, on one side or the other, relying upon their textbook definitions and Certificates of Indoctrination (i.e., college degrees - yeah, I have a few of them, too, and they don&#039;t mean jack when it comes to street smarts) to &quot;explain&quot; things.  All &quot;explanations&quot; rely upon mental models, which remain valid only within limited boundary conditions, and which progressively become less useful and eventually break down once boundary conditions are violated.  

As a result, the edu-matons, as well as their &quot;teachers,&quot; will be unable to comprehend episodes of simultaneous &quot;bothflation,&quot; which will affect particular types of asset, currency, and goods classes differently in a quasi-synchronous manner, and which will lead to a currency crisis that unfolds right under their noses.  The next 7 - 10 years shall give their zero-common-sense high-IQ&#039;s a good enema or three. 

Ah, edu-matons...&quot;What you often find is that intellectuals are the most indoctrinated part of the population…First, as the literate part of the population, they are the ones most susceptible to propaganda.  Second, they are the ideological managers, so they have to internalize propaganda.  They have to believe it.”   Noam Chomsky interview, “Noam is an Island “ - Mother Jones, Oct. 1988.

Chomsky unfortunately cannot perceive his own self-indoctrination; he and the multitudes of today&#039;s edu-matons should perhaps defer to Jacques Ellul for a bit of insight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1930&#8242;s: &#8220;Didn’t have inflation then from the money the US Government put into the economy and won’t have it now.&#8221;</p>
<p>Haha; another conclusion on the part of an edu-maton.  So many factors were so completely different then vs. now that such a conclusion is invalid.  FWIW, in terms of money itself, the US had a swiftly-administered type of &#8220;inflation&#8221; with respect to the then-foundational underpinning of US currency when FDR outlawed most forms of private gold ownership in 1933, called a bank holiday, and then revalued gold from $20.00/oz to $35.00/oz with a stroke of the pen.  </p>
<p>Those who rely upon textbooks, professors, and the so-called &#8220;education&#8221; obtained thereby cannot see the forest for the trees.  They&#8217;ll be stuck in the inflation vs. deflation debate, on one side or the other, relying upon their textbook definitions and Certificates of Indoctrination (i.e., college degrees &#8211; yeah, I have a few of them, too, and they don&#8217;t mean jack when it comes to street smarts) to &#8220;explain&#8221; things.  All &#8220;explanations&#8221; rely upon mental models, which remain valid only within limited boundary conditions, and which progressively become less useful and eventually break down once boundary conditions are violated.  </p>
<p>As a result, the edu-matons, as well as their &#8220;teachers,&#8221; will be unable to comprehend episodes of simultaneous &#8220;bothflation,&#8221; which will affect particular types of asset, currency, and goods classes differently in a quasi-synchronous manner, and which will lead to a currency crisis that unfolds right under their noses.  The next 7 &#8211; 10 years shall give their zero-common-sense high-IQ&#8217;s a good enema or three. </p>
<p>Ah, edu-matons&#8230;&#8221;What you often find is that intellectuals are the most indoctrinated part of the population…First, as the literate part of the population, they are the ones most susceptible to propaganda.  Second, they are the ideological managers, so they have to internalize propaganda.  They have to believe it.”   Noam Chomsky interview, “Noam is an Island “ &#8211; Mother Jones, Oct. 1988.</p>
<p>Chomsky unfortunately cannot perceive his own self-indoctrination; he and the multitudes of today&#8217;s edu-matons should perhaps defer to Jacques Ellul for a bit of insight.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 15:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great work on the shadow inventory.  Just wonder what your research shows you about zip code 91344 (granada hills) and 91326 (Porter Ranch).  What is the total shadow inventory(NOD, NTS, REO) vs MLS listing.  Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great work on the shadow inventory.  Just wonder what your research shows you about zip code 91344 (granada hills) and 91326 (Porter Ranch).  What is the total shadow inventory(NOD, NTS, REO) vs MLS listing.  Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Ohiogal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ohiogal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 21:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AnnSsssssssss.....
Well good on you! Multiple degree&#039;s do NOT mean common sense! LOL!!!!
You might want to check out the latest from Ben Bernacke. There definetely is going to be inflation, they are publicly stating that they are about to increase the base interest rates now to control it (inflation). That wouldn&#039;t be happening if they didn&#039;t think this was going to start blowing up. They have to deal with the money supply issues...that&#039;s a given. Especially since the Fed is buying its own debt, which is a Ponzi scheme of the first order.
In my area, (NOT California) we have had a low turnover in housing (other than a horrific foreclosure rate in &quot;city&quot; areas due to lost jobs) and because I live in a rural area, people generally buy and hold, they do not buy and sell. You&#039;d lose your shirt expecting to do so as most of the properties are land intensive and not that easy to market except for big developers and my area is sufficiently remote from an interstate to keep people out unless they really want to live here.
Given that, its perfectly reasonable to look at real estate as a long term prospect if you expect to BUY AND HOLD and LIVE there. Depends on the goal, no?
Of course, there is always the &quot;rules don&#039;t apply to me&quot; dude who makes stupid decisions. People have to live somewhere and patience was never an American virtue. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AnnSsssssssss&#8230;..<br />
Well good on you! Multiple degree&#8217;s do NOT mean common sense! LOL!!!!<br />
You might want to check out the latest from Ben Bernacke. There definetely is going to be inflation, they are publicly stating that they are about to increase the base interest rates now to control it (inflation). That wouldn&#8217;t be happening if they didn&#8217;t think this was going to start blowing up. They have to deal with the money supply issues&#8230;that&#8217;s a given. Especially since the Fed is buying its own debt, which is a Ponzi scheme of the first order.<br />
In my area, (NOT California) we have had a low turnover in housing (other than a horrific foreclosure rate in &#8220;city&#8221; areas due to lost jobs) and because I live in a rural area, people generally buy and hold, they do not buy and sell. You&#8217;d lose your shirt expecting to do so as most of the properties are land intensive and not that easy to market except for big developers and my area is sufficiently remote from an interstate to keep people out unless they really want to live here.<br />
Given that, its perfectly reasonable to look at real estate as a long term prospect if you expect to BUY AND HOLD and LIVE there. Depends on the goal, no?<br />
Of course, there is always the &#8220;rules don&#8217;t apply to me&#8221; dude who makes stupid decisions. People have to live somewhere and patience was never an American virtue. <img src='http://www.doctorhousingbubble.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: AnnS</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnnS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 19:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ohhiogirl
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&gt;&gt;
I forgot to add that you are DEAD WRONG on the impact of tariffs (if imposed) on the US economy as it exists. Way too simplistic.
&gt;
Tariffs are bad if one is an exporting county. (US in the 1930s.)
&gt;&gt;
Tariffs are good if one is an importing country  and domestic production is collapsing ie: import more than export while domestic production collapses.  (Great Britain in the 1930s and US now.)
&gt;&gt;
Great Britain was among the first countries in the 1930s to impose extremely stiff tariffs on imported goods - huge tariffs.  Great Britain did not suffer anywhere near the extent the US did in the 1930s --- and recovered far far faster as domestic production (and thus employment) increased to produce goods which were now prohibitively expensvie due to the tariffs.
&gt;&gt;
In case you hadn&#039;t noticed, the US imports billions upon billions more in goods than it exports. Money flows out of the US like Niagra Falls.  And all the while domestic production dies....and jobs are lost.....
&gt;&gt;
There are names for societies that import more than they export. They are called &#039;third world&#039; and &#039;colonies.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ohhiogirl<br />
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&gt;&gt;<br />
I forgot to add that you are DEAD WRONG on the impact of tariffs (if imposed) on the US economy as it exists. Way too simplistic.<br />
&gt;<br />
Tariffs are bad if one is an exporting county. (US in the 1930s.)<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
Tariffs are good if one is an importing country  and domestic production is collapsing ie: import more than export while domestic production collapses.  (Great Britain in the 1930s and US now.)<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
Great Britain was among the first countries in the 1930s to impose extremely stiff tariffs on imported goods &#8211; huge tariffs.  Great Britain did not suffer anywhere near the extent the US did in the 1930s &#8212; and recovered far far faster as domestic production (and thus employment) increased to produce goods which were now prohibitively expensvie due to the tariffs.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
In case you hadn&#8217;t noticed, the US imports billions upon billions more in goods than it exports. Money flows out of the US like Niagra Falls.  And all the while domestic production dies&#8230;.and jobs are lost&#8230;..<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
There are names for societies that import more than they export. They are called &#8216;third world&#8217; and &#8216;colonies.&#8217;</p>
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